First of all, is there a difference between material that *may* induce hatred, and material that is actually objectively *anti-Semitic*? Surely a lot of *good* material induces hatred?
Secondly, I haven't seen a single convincing argument that this film contains anything that is demonstrably anti-Semitic as opposed to criticising *specific Jews*. And what is more, I cannot see how, in a work of drama, such a thing is even *possible*. Is there a voiceover saying "Like all Jews, this guy did X terrible thing," or something? Are characters portrayed in ways that are patently *unrealistic and false* and which convey mythical anti-Semitic libels?
Surely one does not have to avoid criticising all Jews in order not to be accused of anti-Semitism?
I think to compare this film with Michael Moore's piece of trash is really obscene. There are degrees of evil, and not being able to distinguish the ground between them is a serious moral error that undermines our attempts to spread good ideas. Moore is full of virulent hatred, and he tells lies to further his cause. Where are the deliberate falsehoods in Gibson's film? Where is there objectively extreme hatred towards the whole of the Jewish people?
I haven't seen "The Passion", but I can see no possible way that any depiction of this story can be interpreted as definitely and objectively attacking Jews as a whole, as opposed to attacking the actions of certain Jews at the time of those events. There are historical reasons why the Jewish authorities at the time would have a) not been the best of Jews, and b) not been very positive about Jesus.
The last thing we need is political correctness on the right side of the fence as well!
And if anyone thinks this comment means that *I* must be anti-Semitic, I'm just going to crawl off into a hole and die.
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I can't make head or tail of most of this.
First of all, is there a difference between material that *may* induce hatred, and material that is actually objectively *anti-Semitic*? Surely a lot of *good* material induces hatred?
Secondly, I haven't seen a single convincing argument that this film contains anything that is demonstrably anti-Semitic as opposed to criticising *specific Jews*. And what is more, I cannot see how, in a work of drama, such a thing is even *possible*. Is there a voiceover saying "Like all Jews, this guy did X terrible thing," or something? Are characters portrayed in ways that are patently *unrealistic and false* and which convey mythical anti-Semitic libels?
Surely one does not have to avoid criticising all Jews in order not to be accused of anti-Semitism?
I think to compare this film with Michael Moore's piece of trash is really obscene. There are degrees of evil, and not being able to distinguish the ground between them is a serious moral error that undermines our attempts to spread good ideas. Moore is full of virulent hatred, and he tells lies to further his cause. Where are the deliberate falsehoods in Gibson's film? Where is there objectively extreme hatred towards the whole of the Jewish people?
I haven't seen "The Passion", but I can see no possible way that any depiction of this story can be interpreted as definitely and objectively attacking Jews as a whole, as opposed to attacking the actions of certain Jews at the time of those events. There are historical reasons why the Jewish authorities at the time would have a) not been the best of Jews, and b) not been very positive about Jesus.
The last thing we need is political correctness on the right side of the fence as well!
And if anyone thinks this comment means that *I* must be anti-Semitic, I'm just going to crawl off into a hole and die.